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Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs. There are also presumably high levels of automation so [most do not have to work](http://imgur.com/yQpzb).
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Many socialists point to [directly democratic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy) [worker’s councils](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_council) as an ideal way to organize production, with [gift economies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy) for abundant goods, and [labor voucher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_voucher) economies for scarce/luxury goods. Here is an example of a [moneyless, Cyber-Communist system.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI01-5zhwdA)
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Many socialists point to [directly democratic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy) [worker’s councils](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_council) as an ideal way to organize production, with [gift economies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy) for abundant goods, and [labor voucher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_voucher) economies for scarce/luxury goods. Here is an example of a [moneyless, Cyber-Communist system](/paul_cockshott_cyber_communism.md), [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI01-5zhwdA).
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Past and present socialist/anarchist societies include - [Revolutionary Catalonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia), [Anarchist Aragon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_Aragon), Shinmin Province in Korea/Manchuria, The [Bavarian Soviet Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic), The [Paris Commune](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_commune), The Zapatista controlled areas of Chiapas (current day), [Magonista Baja California](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magonista_rebellion_of_1911), [Shanghai People's Commune](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_People%27s_Commune), [Rojava](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava) (current day), [Communist Marinaleda](http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/marinaleda-spanish-communist-village-utopia), [Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia), [USSR](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union), [People's Republic of China](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China), [Socialist Republic of Vietnam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam), [Cuba](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba).
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### Modern introductory books
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- [Socialist books starter pack (torrent)](magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6980fde654f217ec9c81b30eab1ca3a13bbbca1e&dn=Socialist+books+starter+pack&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969)
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- <pre>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6980fde654f217ec9c81b30eab1ca3a13bbbca1e&dn=Socialist+books+starter+pack&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969</pre>
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- [Paul D’Amatto - the meaning of Marxism](magnet:?xt=urn:btih:24c9a942f97f99c1816a344292b7baff5f289986&dn=The+Meaning+of+Marxism+-+Paul+D%27Amato.epub&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969)
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- <pre>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:24c9a942f97f99c1816a344292b7baff5f289986&dn=The+Meaning+of+Marxism+-+Paul+D%27Amato.epub&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969</pre>
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- [Danny Katch - Socialism…. Seriously](magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1565682421ff7082fdad461266ab9e403fb50cfc&tr=http://tracker.opentrackr.org/announce&tr=http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce&tr=udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969/announce&tr=udp://tracker.leechers-paradise.org:6969/announce&tr=udp://tracker.zer0day.to:1337/announce)
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- <pre>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1565682421ff7082fdad461266ab9e403fb50cfc&dn=Socialism Seriously A Brief Guide to Human Liberation Danny Katch (2015) epub&tr=http://tracker.opentrackr.org/announce&tr=http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce&tr=udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969/announce&tr=udp://tracker.leechers-paradise.org:6969/announce&tr=udp://tracker.zer0day.to:1337/announce</pre>
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- [Jacobin - The ABCs of Socialism](https://s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf)
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- [Socialist books starter pack (torrent)](magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6980fde654f217ec9c81b30eab1ca3a13bbbca1e&dn=Socialist+books+starter+pack&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969)
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- [Chris Harman - How Marxism Works](https://www.marxists.org/archive/harman/1979/marxism/index.html)
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- [Peter Gelderloos - How Nonviolence Protects the State](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-how-nonviolence-protects-the-state)
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### Essays/Introductions
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- [Lenin - The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm)
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- [Lenin - A liberal professor on Equality](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm)
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- [Eugene Debs - Capitalism and Socialism](https://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1912/1912-capsoc.htm)
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- [Do Publicly Owned, Planned Economies Work?](http://gowans.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/do-publicly-owned-planned-economies-work) [audiobook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYf3gZZFa0k&list=PL0-IkmzWbjobDdDbSC_YgZfV94BQiRIB8)
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- [Stephen Gowans - Do Publicly Owned, Planned Economies Work?](http://gowans.wordpress.com/2012/12/21/do-publicly-owned-planned-economies-work) [audiobook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYf3gZZFa0k&list=PL0-IkmzWbjobDdDbSC_YgZfV94BQiRIB8)
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- Why do many socialist attempts end up in an one-party state? Watch this [brilliant talk by Micheal Parenti](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7WmYEoNtPY&feature=youtu.be), or read his article, [Left anticommunism, the unkindest cut](http://www.greanvillepost.com/2015/05/23/left-anticommunism-the-unkindest-cut/), [audiobook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51KSe96VCuI)
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- [Pacifism - How to do the enemy's job for them.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxrO7p-6w_k&list=PL0-IkmzWbjoZ5IIhnzFBOImzySh827FyK)
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- [Red Phoenix - Pacifism - How to do the enemy's job for them.](https://theredphoenixapl.org/2011/08/11/pacifism-how-to-do-the-enemys-job-for-them/), [audiobook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxrO7p-6w_k&list=PL0-IkmzWbjoZ5IIhnzFBOImzySh827FyK)
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### Marxist literature
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- [Engels - Socialism: Utopian and Scientific](http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm), [audiobook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS4cpvvLeYo&list=PL0-IkmzWbjobt3oC7Mhq9kHWVbBKRtyg8)
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- [Lenin - State and Revolution](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/)
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- [Lenin - “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/)
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- [Lenin - Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/)
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- [Kropotkin - The Conquest of Bread](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread)
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- [Trotsky - Fascism: What it is and how to Fight it](https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm)
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- [Trotsky - In Defense of October](https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1932/11/oct.htm)
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- [Why, in your opinion, have most attempts to form countries based economically on communism and socialism (USSR, Cuba, China) fail?](http://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/1f8obt/honestly_not_trolling_why_in_your_opinion_have/)
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- [What about the authoritarian leaders like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc?](https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/8xl4bi/stay_angry_comrades/e24fuqs/)
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- [Why did the Soviet Union fail?](http://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/1zrroq/why_did_the_soviet_union_fail/)
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- [What about the gulags?](https://www.greanvillepost.com/2018/10/09/the-truth-about-the-soviet-gulag-surprisingly-revealed-by-the-cia/) [2](https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/9bem2d/what_were_the_gulags_according_to_self_identified/e52ls2e/)
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- [What about the gulags?](https://www.greanvillepost.com/2018/10/09/the-truth-about-the-soviet-gulag-surprisingly-revealed-by-the-cia/) [2](https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/9bem2d/what_were_the_gulags_according_to_self_identified/e52ls2e/) [3](https://espressostalinist.com/the-real-stalin-series/gulag/)
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- [Didn't the USSR kill millions of it citizens, with most people living in poverty and dying early?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union#Life_expectancy_and_infant_mortality)
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- [What about Stalin, the purges, the holodomor, etc? A revleft podcast.](https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/joseph-mother-fucking-stain)
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- [Was Stalin actually a good leader?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Socialism_101/comments/cg319t/were_there_any_good_leaders_of_the_soviet_union/euekaxo/)
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* [What is Luxemburgism?](https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/bzl9iu/luxemburgism/eqtbcxe/)
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* [Is the revolutionary DotP a separate material stage apart from lower phased communism?](http://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/2mrkkj/is_the_revolutionary_dotp_a_separate_material/)
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* [Is socialism the lowest stage of communism or is it the transition to communism, in between capitalism and communism?](https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/2rijno/is_socialism_the_lowest_stage_of_communism_or_is/)
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* [What about Left Unity? Engels letter to Bebel.](https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1873/letters/73_06_20.htm)
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## Did economic planning work?
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* [50% of the economy is in the socialist public sector and directly follows the plan (40% if you ignore the agricultural sector). 20 to 30% is inside the state capitalist sector, which is the sector partially or totally owned by domestic capitalists but run by the CPC or by local workers councils. The rest is made up of the small bourgeois ownership like in the NEP.](https://chinareporting.blogspot.com/2009/11/class-nature-of-chinese-state-critique_26.html)
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* If China is imperialist, [why are they funding development in Africa and writing off millions in debt?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/cov03r/lenders_remorse_chinas_africa_projects_need_lots/ewld4v4/)
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* [Is China a democracy?](https://www.quora.com/What-kind-of-democracy-does-the-China-have/answer/Godfree-Roberts?share=0ac8c628&srid=JMzz)
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* [What kind of democracy does China have, and how is it different from the west?](https://www.quora.com/What-kind-of-democracy-does-the-China-have/answers/81676052?share=0ac8c628&srid=JMzz)
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* In contrast to low US political approval ratings, 96% of Chinese are satisfied with the national government (Edelmans 2016). World Values Surveys says that 83% think the country is run for their benefit rather than for the benefit of special groups–a remarkable testimonial. [How is this possible in a one-party state?](https://www.quora.com/What-kind-of-democracy-does-the-China-have/answer/Godfree-Roberts?share=0ac8c628&srid=JMzz)
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* [How does China’s political system work?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu4QTxl9GVw)
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* [Who runs China? Makeup of the national people's congress.](https://news.cgtn.com/event/2019/whorunschina/index.html)
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* [The real wage (IE the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it's the most populous country on the planet. The US real wage by comparison is lower in 2019 than it was in 1973.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8SvK0E5dI)
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* [US Life expectancy peaked in 2015, is on the decline, and is now lower than in China.](https://www.businessinsider.com/china-boasts-that-its-healthy-life-expectancy-beats-the-us-is-correct-2018-5) How [healthcare works in China (refuting a fearmongering NYT video about health care in China)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvpo2jv5eqI)
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* [US Life expectancy peaked in 2015, is on the decline, and is now lower than in China.](https://www.businessinsider.com/china-boasts-that-its-healthy-life-expectancy-beats-the-us-is-correct-2018-5) [2](http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-09/07/c_138372963.htm) How [healthcare works in China (refuting a fearmongering NYT video about health care in China)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvpo2jv5eqI)
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* [Wages themselves are forced to rise in the private sector by the CPC (+16% every years, +400% since 1980) who force the capitalists to accept the presence of CPC chapters who represent the interest of the workers, increasing workers control even in the capitalist parts of the economy. ](https://www.workers.org/2015/07/21/china-rising-wages-and-worker-militancy/#.WXOlQtPytsM)
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* [The west views China as one big sweatshop, but the actual working hours aren't much more than anywhere else. The average for a migrant worker (most vulnerable to exploitation as they are traveling from the countryside) is 8.8 hours, little under an hour more than a typical working day. Labor strikes are rarely suppressed, and usually get the support of the PRC.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/mitchfree/2013/07/11/held-hostage-entrepreneurs-uneasy-over-chinese-govt-inaction/#2431f5463de4)
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* [The workplace safety standards of China are better than in the capitalist countries of the West like in Australia who have an higher rate of work related death despite having a GDP per capita 3-5 times higher.](http://www.trotskyistplatform.com/workplace-safety-now-better-in-china-than-in-australia/)
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- [The protestors are beating up anyone from China (lots of anti-china racism from hkers)](https://mobile.twitter.com/carlzha/status/1169272640642535424?s=21&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app) [2]((https://mobile.twitter.com/SCMPHongKong/status/1173201595619610624?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf))
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- [“Something else you won't see in imperialist msm: Hong Kongers organizing to show their support for extradition amendment. "Hong Kongers can't be at ease if fugitives are in the large"](https://mobile.twitter.com/redniangzijun/status/1139177913859891202).
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- [“Over 900,000 real name signatures in "Protecting justice & supporting extradition" petition. Reasons listed: HK criminal committed murder in TW; HK current extradition law has flaws & needs amendment asap; HK shouldn't be fugitive heaven, extradition amendment has many safeguards”](https://mobile.twitter.com/redniangzijun/status/1139177921631965189).
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- [Hong Kong - British vs Chinese Perspective.](https://www.reddit.com/r/FULLCOMMUNISM/comments/dg0zpn/imagine_being_china_for_a_moment_and_having_to/)
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### What about China spying on its own people?
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- [Why doesn't X minority just lift themselves up by the bootstraps out of poverty? Response by MLK. ](https://streamable.com/eafqq)
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- [To what extent is modern day Vietnam Socialist?](https://medium.com/@otelocarvalho/socialism-today-in-vietnam-ac22ce2edf47)
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- [How is socialism progressing in Bolivia?](https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cg2t3j/masterpost_on_the_achievements_of_socialism_in/)
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- [How does the US and British strategy of Balkanization work?](https://youtu.be/niZsLfxNwvI?t=807)
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